Mages are tough?

[xiaoKathy]

I started this game couple months ago.
But I'm still a lv2x mage and i have difficulties on leveling.
Are mages the most difficult job to train?
I spent 60 mana pots for 10% at my level.
And that 10% takes me one and a half hour.
Unlike Warriors and Rangers , they lure many at once and kills fast.
I can be half asleep when I'm training my warrior but not mage.
Also, I hate partying as it is pretty hard to share loots and it gets bored when our job is only to follow orders.
HEAL! SHIELD! (-__-)

Any high level mages has suggestion on leveling?

[val24]

From my experience, once we hit level 27+, it is very slow to level by yourself.
The best approach is to find a higher level warrior to party against bee, donguri, or ambush (Lanos side).
Oh.. don't forget to join battlefield to get the Exp Boost xD

[-AmaneMisa-]

ya lvl 27 plus is hard to train 3:

at lvl 27+ u need warrior its faster trust me

if ranger , mage and warrior . even more faster if the warrior attack lol .

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I always bought 200 mana pots so i wont come back to town >_<

but if u train solo faster at lvl 1-27 :3

[SilverComb]

Lol lucky in a weeks i only get to lvl 14 O.o

[JJJ1011]

Training is very hard
I'm lvl 22 and I get about 1% every 10mins if I'm playing by meyself
if someone lures it's faster

["kinetix"(N/A)]

Depends. I been fighting Magma Thieves and get 9-10% per kill (make that 8-10% I think) so 10 is not bad. I aim for at least 10% per day, and makes the game much easier. 10% a day isn't bad, and normally I go over.

[Aerisama]

Wow Kathy I agree with you,I also spend a lot of gold in mana pots to train. I would say pots, carni and a lurer are a most when leveling fast Dx

[xiaoKathy]

Many people agrees that mages are the hardest job to train.
Some even said we are the slaves in this game.
But i really hate the fact that mages die easily.
Sigh...
Also, during PvP wars, people tend to aim the mages first.
And there goes my fame.. :(

["kinetix"(N/A)]

Kathy you hit the spot. I am targetted by rangers first, but remember, not because we are hyper-weak, but we can keep players alive. Heck I target mages first, because killing a warrior is useless, if he just gets spammed healed, so it makes sense to kill the mage first; the warriors life line.

I like mage cause I can help, and even sometimes determine if someone lives or dies xD

[FireS]

ya same here. you can also get payed to heal so its a good way to make money

[SilverComb]

Shouldnt it be better to hide in a corner and use carn and then heal and carn and heal over and over again? Then to use mana pots? Havent tried yet but it sounded like a good idea lol ^^

["kinetix"(N/A)]

I don't really need to go though many mana pots. I'm level 22 (sig) and everytime I kill a Magma Thief, I can use carni and regain almost full MP, and by the time I kill another, it nearly recharged.

I do keep some pots though, just in case I do go low, like Seed Extracts are good. I also am using only Carni II, so Carni III may do wonders :rolleyes:

[CrazyKnight]

yea mages are very weak..but even if a single mage is alive we can help turn the battle against our favor...some exceptions to the rules but generally its true...thats y we r the first to die...its a occupational hazard...the helper kooi dint tell me that when i first started..learned it the hard way.

if you time ur kills right, you can carni and kill again over and over...also when i lure mobs, my combo is usually doom,fb,fs,regular attack,fs,doom,fb...i rarely use flare...only when a mob follows me into lure spot...i kill a little slower but i dont drain my mp like crazy either...so i can kill for longer...

[xiaoKathy]

Hmm..
When it comes to PvP
I normally gets panicked. (very)
I tried those combo mentioned by some of the guidelines here.
But i hate it when i have to keep swiping slots of skills..
I normally needs Freezing Trap , Stun (to 'start' a war)
Then Curse Of Doom , Flare , Firebolt (to attack)
And Heal, Shield , Prayer of Protection (when i'm dying)
Also Carnivalize or Regeneration Pots (whenever I'm running out of mana)
And all those needs..many many slots.

Any suggestion on arrangement of mage skills in our slots?

[Aerisama]

Well I still need to get that Carni II but im sure as Kinetix says that Carni III must be awesome! Ill need that for training faster for sure :3

[CrazyKnight]

Well I still need to get that Carni II but im sure as Kinetix says that Carni III must be awesome! Ill need that for training faster for sure :3

oh yea def worth it...

[kaydy2010]

Why is your name so familiar, Crazy Knight?:rolleyes:

["kinetix"(N/A)]

Zoxes still has my copy of Carni III......

[CrazyKnight]

Why is your name so familiar, Crazy Knight?:rolleyes:

haha...at first i was like, hmm...i dont know any kaydy from before....then i saw ur ign...:p...would u stay still damit and not run away so fast lol...sry i dont like pking, but u kept pking and greifing one of my guildy, so now im gonna have to come after you every time he asks my help...you and dragon...EXPECIALLY Dragonwiz..that guy has no heart seriously...even pro pkers dont pk anyone in lh5. he doesent care...its such a loooong run up there...

sry to get off topic...i want carni 4

[314]

I never use mana pots. Instead I use donguri juice after fights (bought in certain shops) which restores a total of 135 mana. Before level 15 I used alot of these but after level 15 with carnivalize, I used maybe a total of 20-30 per level, maybe less, so its much better than mana pots in my opinion.

[mcj0310]

yeah. mage is the hardest job. and the weakest when pvp.

I think Com2us never consider Job balance.

Ranger is too strong when hunting, pvp.

Stupid Com2us manages this game carelessly and never fix balance.

["kinetix"(N/A)]

wow weak in PvP ? What game are you playing?

[xiaoKathy]

wow weak in PvP ? What game are you playing?

exactly. lol D:
mages have low hp but the skills rocks!
and mage damage is super high.
even at lv15 u reach 200 critical :P
but only thing is..
hard to train :(

[mcj0310]

kinetix / yes. mage have very strong damage. but weaker damage than double shot lv4 with critical :) no mage can stand D shot lv4 with wing bow. if very high lvl mage, once hitted stun shot and 400 or higher d shot combo damage, mage have no chance to try his strong skill. mage will die before recovering stun.

I agree mage have very strong damage and bug combo.
but when you are very high lvl, and pvp with same lvl ranger,
you will have no chance to hit ranger.

first, you will be stuned and die before recover.

the reason why mage is weak at pvp is that
mage cannot stand until recover stun.

sorry about my poor english. I hope you
can understand what I mean :)

[Divine-ara]

First off, at Lvl 27+ Mage partying with a warrior or ranger is way faster then solo though it can be boring, almost all training at Lvl 27+ can get pretty boring. I suggest always getting the daily koii doll if you do train solo because the 20% is always a great help.
PvP for mages is, unless your strong, a game of hit and run
In battle field for example don't be out in front, ive made this mistake and of corse you get targeted, hide behind the rangers/ warriors, heal them, and rush in to do large damage if you can.
If you have the money I would suggest to get a 6-7int mystic wand at Lvl 27 and if you have extra to spare enchant it to +7 at least, +8 if you got extra funds and are feeling brave.

["kinetix"(N/A)]

kinetix / yes. mage have very strong damage. but weaker damage than double shot lv4 with critical :) no mage can stand D shot lv4 with wing bow. if very high lvl mage, once hitted stun shot and 400 or higher d shot combo damage, mage have no chance to try his strong skill. mage will die before recovering stun.

I agree mage have very strong damage and bug combo.
but when you are very high lvl, and pvp with same lvl ranger,
you will have no chance to hit ranger.

first, you will be stuned and die before recover.

the reason why mage is weak at pvp is that
mage cannot stand until recover stun.

sorry about my poor english. I hope you
can understand what I mean :)

Uh huh. Firstly no ranger can crit you 400 in PvP or else they would be able to own Warrior as well. And the fact you still say mages suck in PvP, YOU MISSED OUT A WHOLE CLASS!

To help prevent stun, cough, Pop and shield IV for both. That may help. If not mages have a HUGE line up of disruptive skills, such as Silence, so no DS I believe, Stun (up to 5 seconds!), Fear, Neutralise.

Com2us would not make a game as grossly imbalanced where rangers just pwn everything. Rangers easily get a IV skill that is strong, but remember, you cant say which is better until you get all the IV skills... I saw flameshock IV is powerful in battle.

[Tazdinga]

I say all us mages unite!! Delete your healing spell lol! Then see what happens.

[XxMASTERxX]

Best way to train as a Mage is u party with 2 rangers and a warrior best to get 2 rangers 2lvs higher than you they kill faster. Fast exp.

[Divine-ara]

Rangers may not be able to one hit crit 400 damage but with ds IV rangers can easily hit 400+ damage in mere seconds with good equips such as powerfull hunter bow, or wings wing

["kinetix"(N/A)]

AGAIN, in PvP, with DS IV and Wing Wing, you will NEVER hit 400, unless you are probably level 50, and face a much lower level. In training perhaps, but not in PvP yet, or else I would be dead in one shot, and that never happend (when I face Doidoi, who has DS IV and either Hunter Bow or Wing Wing.)

And think about it, why cant Doidoi one shot rangers, if they have relatively same armor and lower than 400hp?

[kylamccormick]

no contest, i can hit 400 crits w lvl 24 mage, now if only i had my own mage to heal and shield....

[kylamccormick]

i've often wonderered how an all mage party would do training and in pvp, never even used mana feed, anyone else tried it?

[Divine-ara]

Rangers don't hit 400 in one shot, but at highest Lvls when you can spam ds IV or even ds III you can hit 300-400 damage in only a few secounds

[hahal]

kinetix / yes. mage have very strong damage. but weaker damage than double shot lv4 with critical :) no mage can stand D shot lv4 with wing bow. if very high lvl mage, once hitted stun shot and 400 or higher d shot combo damage, mage have no chance to try his strong skill. mage will die before recovering stun.

I agree mage have very strong damage and bug combo.
but when you are very high lvl, and pvp with same lvl ranger,
you will have no chance to hit ranger.

first, you will be stuned and die before recover.

the reason why mage is weak at pvp is that
mage cannot stand until recover stun.

sorry about my poor english. I hope you
can understand what I mean :)


what you can do is neutralize then do fear they have no chance :D
or if dont have do stun and escape!!!:rolleyes:

[AnonX1337]

I agree with mcj. I've had experiences with mages :D

[Devilsheer]

Well.. I remember gold hitting me 394 one shot during battle with critical

I'm sure i had at least 40 ac at that moment

[cloud strife]

warrior > ranger > mage > warrior

mages can do the highest damage like a good burst damage

rangers can do the fastest amount of damage due to quick attacks a la DS and high crits

warriors can do good damage and can have decent crits with rage and spamming slam. warriors can also take the most damage

[MrTroogdor]

On the topic of slots...

Page 1:
Freezing trap
Doom
Firebolt
Flame shock
Flare

Page 2:
Stun
Light heal
Shield
Healing wave
PoP

Page 3:
Teleport
Carnivalize
Mana potions


Also, IOwnYou has hit over 600 on a sandbag with curse+crit.

['FX']

Wow my quick slots are totally different from all of yours.

[Naruke]

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[xiaoKathy]

In my opinion,
the Food Chain goes like this :D

Ranger > Mage
(rangers has high hr and crit,
they also attack the fastest among all,
and mages are too are slow in casting skills.)

Mage > Warrior
(mages deal high damage with curse,
even though they have low armor and hp,
they are able to freeze and stun warriors that could only attack in melee.)

Warrior > Ranger
(warriors has high def and are able to tank high damage,
and rangers normally could only deal minor damage to them.)

*only at the same level!

[♥Danyelle♥]

Lol ok....I slightly edited my slots.....Still confuses me when I think i'm clicking the right one and I'm not, and I end up dying >.>

SLot 1: FS, heal, FB, Curse, Shield
Slot 2: PoP, Carni, Ice, Tele, Shield >.>
Slot 3: Poison, Flar, Kooi doll, Seed extract Pot, Flame of Katana
Slot 4: Poo hat, newb armor, newb staff withhh high int
for healing periods, Healing pot, Mana pot


yea my slots are screwed I know hhaha

[caseystar111]

In my opinion,
the Food Chain goes like this :D

Ranger > Mage
(rangers has high hr and crit,
they also attack the fastest among all,
and mages are too are slow in casting skills.)

Mage > Warrior
(mages deal high damage with curse,
even though they have low armor and hp,
they are able to freeze and stun warriors that could only attack in melee.)

Warrior > Ranger
(warriors has high def and are able to tank high damage,
and rangers normally could only deal minor damage to them.)

*only at the same level!


i totally agree with this!
btw whats the stats on your black p hat? o.o

[manatees123]

A black pirate hat has critical 2. =P

[xiaoKathy]

i totally agree with this!

thanks! :D
but with good armors/weapon/skills,
everyone could easily kill one another ;)
also dont forget to train more!
leveling makes you stronger!

[xiaoKathy]

Lol ok....I slightly edited my slots.....Still confuses me when I think i'm clicking the right one and I'm not, and I end up dying >.>

yea my slots are screwed I know hhaha

and Danyelle i think u posted at the wrong thread! D:
u suppose to post at "Mages Quick Slot for PvP" :p

[isebastian]

In my opinion,
the Food Chain goes like this :D

Ranger > Mage
(rangers has high hr and crit,
they also attack the fastest among all,
and mages are too are slow in casting skills.)

Mage > Warrior
(mages deal high damage with curse,
even though they have low armor and hp,
they are able to freeze and stun warriors that could only attack in melee.)

Warrior > Ranger
(warriors has high def and are able to tank high damage,
and rangers normally could only deal minor damage to them.)

*only at the same level!


Agree! But seriously I wanna see a Mage one on one vs a warrior like loozer,drkknight,kronin,construst,butt3rsake,xxzac xx,kurokage, etc warriors~ :cool:

PS: so I can make a awesome vid :cool:

['FX']

Agree! But seriously I wanna see a Mage one on one vs a warrior like loozer,drkknight,kronin,construst,butt3rsake,xxzac xx,kurokage, etc warriors~ :cool:

PS: so I can make a awesome vid :cool:

I~1v1ed Loozer and DrkKnight yesterday.

Killed Loozer.

DrkKnight killed me, he got neardeath another time and he recalled...

[xiaoKathy]

I~1v1ed Loozer and DrkKnight yesterday.

nice ;) we need more mages with shield IV lol.

[Akarui_Ame]

ok so even if mages are a bit tough THEY ARE HARD TO TRAIN OMG

[SunnySundae]

ok so even if mages are a bit tough THEY ARE HARD TO TRAIN OMG

lol yes yes n yes maybe its cuz i'm lazy thats y i also heal a little bit fo rmoney or exp now hahaha

[Markio16]

Is there anyway to increase a mage's ability to take more hits? I feel like I'm dying in a few seconds even to warriors

[Maters]

Is there anyway to increase a mage's ability to take more hits? I feel like I'm dying in a few seconds even to warriors

Can always re-cast Shield and Prayer, not to mention heal. Make use of the buffing skills you have.

[Markio16]

Can always re-cast Shield and Prayer, not to mention heal. Make use of the buffing skills you have.

easy to say, but when my shields go in about 1 second... I guess I should go hunting for better buffs and more armor.

Btw it seems some attacks still pull through stun, that's just the delay of a skill pressed before stun is used right?

[msm16z1]

if someone has a shield stun will not work. Maybe that is what u r seeing

[Maters]

if someone has a shield stun will not work. Maybe that is what u r seeing

Correct. Never use Stun first. Damage, and then stun.

[xMichel]

Haha who cares if theyre hard to train? When we get to 35 we can spam fear!

[bnam]

Haha who cares if theyre hard to train? When we get to 35 we can spam fear!

You make it sound as though getting to lvl 35 is easy...

For a war, it's especially hard zzzz

[Markio16]

if someone has a shield stun will not work. Maybe that is what u r seeing

I usually do some damage before I use stun, and also after that out of place move was executed, they still would be unable to move or attack for about 3 seconds

[Maters]

I usually do some damage before I use stun, and also after that out of place move was executed, they still would be unable to move or attack for about 3 seconds

Stun doesn't work 100% of the time. Level and MR make a difference in percentage.

[joll69710]

mages /..... so hard to train..... cuz of mana .....