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smartboy3456
05-01-2011, 09:04 AM
What warrior equips should I get/skip(especially should I skip sturdy woopa and spider silk bone arm and wait for bone arm)?

Dduck
05-01-2011, 09:07 AM
What warrior equips should I get/skip(especially should I skip sturdy woopa and spider silk bone arm and wait for bone arm)?

You don't need spider silk. Just use sturdy Woopa armor until you get a bone armor. If you have enough get a black Juno helmet at lvl 26. Skip BlackSkull armor and get highguard. If you don't have enough for a Black Juno use Woopa helm until lvl 30.

smartboy3456
05-01-2011, 10:48 AM
Alright thanks, but I still need to farm a lot more before I have enough for a +4 sturdy woopa scale armor. I'm just thinking that I should stick with my +4 woopa scale armor and wait for bone.

Dduck
05-01-2011, 10:50 AM
Alright thanks, but I still need to farm a lot more before I have enough for a +4 sturdy woopa scale armor. I'm just thinking that I should stick with my +4 woopa scale armor and wait for bone.
You could stay with your Woopa scale armor till lvl 20. If you have enough go for sturdy. If not, forget it. xD

smartboy3456
05-01-2011, 10:51 AM
Thank you very much!

Dduck
05-01-2011, 10:51 AM
Thank you very much!

Np. ^^

Alchemia
05-01-2011, 01:21 PM
It's a question of balancing time versus outcome versus finances versus luck.

Much of these things have been covered before, as always.

Let's take a look at armor.

Silk Bone Armor is fun, but really no use for a warrior.
Sturdy Woopa Armor is easy enough and beneficial enough to obtain. So get it.
Bone Armor is also easy enough to get, so do so at level 20.

Blackskull Armor .. or Highguard Armor. That's the question. It's been discussed before.

Blackskull Armor
+ Solid Hp increase
+ Magic Resist
+ Strength Increase
+ More stylish than Highguard Armor

- Costly to make (80 Yeti Bones, 1 Blackskull, 3 Crystal Dust, 1 Design).

Highguard Armor
+ Solid Hp increase (in its' best form, slightly more Hp than BS Armor).
+ Ice Resist (arguably somewhat useless).
+ More armor than BS Armor (1 more in base form, more worthwhile in +5/6 form).
+ Much cheaper alternative (an armor that is really only worth its' enchant value [+5/6]).

- No useful stat upgrade.
- Arguably very ugly.

Will really come down to time, can you afford it and some luck. It'll be unlikely you can end up with both in solid form, but to try in time. HG Armor may come at a later level, but it's a solid alternative. Can't really go wrong with either. Take HG for the increased armor. Take BS for the extra stats and style, but beware of the cost behind it.

At the same time, whichever armor you decide upon, do what you can to make it +5 on your own or by purchasing. At the end of the day though, you will want one of them to be +6. Might have more chance purchasing a +6 HG as there are more than BS of that caliber. But again, everything in time and step by step. What comes first is your level, finances and time.

Scale Armor is relatively useless. It's actually very useless. It offers nothing worthwhile in any stat upgrade and only offers a handful more Hp. Only thing nice about it is it's style and is really only used to signify you've reached 32.

Steel Armor will be the armor to end at, if you can make it. Very costly to +5, as with Scale Armor. Looks trendy and offers nice stat upgrades such as high Hp and high Fire Resist.

Darksteel Armor not too much to say, that is very much long down the road for you and quite silly to go so far.

Your goal will be to end up with a solid BS or HG armor.

Helmets

These are a funny group. Many people buy all kinds not for their usefulness, but just to have and wear around. Let's take a look at the ones you'll want.

Woopa Scale Helmet you likely have for now, not much to say, really your first helmet.
Intensified Woopa Helmet
+ Easy to obtain/cheap.
+ Solid strength.
+ Decent chance to end up with 2+ strength.
+ Easy to +5 (cheaper scrolls in C enchants).

- Only downside is there are chances to end up with a poor Strength helmet.

Similarly to the BS versus HG comparison, you'll have a decision soon.

Bone Helmet
+ Easier to make than Juno.
+ Solid strength.

- Not as trendy as Juno.
- Can easily end up with a low Strength helmet.
- Becomes more of a choice between Intensified and Bone.

BlackJuno's Helmet
+ Solid Strength.
+ Stylish.
+ Magic Resist.
+ Commonness makes it cheap-ish.
+ More armor than Bone/Intensified.

- Comes at a later level (well worth it).
- Takes more to make (Juno's Horn + 80 Yeti Bones + 3 Crystal Dust + Juno Design).
- Thus costs more.
- Likely to end up with a low stat helmet (2 Str/ 3 MR).

All in all, BlackJuno's Helmet you will want. Due to its' level, it'll be possible to +6 the helmet, but will take a lot of Armor B scrolls.

A +5 Blackjuno's Helmet is the same armor as Heavy Iron Helmet. Leaving out the discussion of Heavy Iron due to it being just an item to demonstrate you are now level 30. A 4 Strength Heavy Iron is common enough - only reason to upgrade over a Juno really. A 5 Strength Heavy Iron is rare and not really worth the time in making.

Helmet of Bravery

+ Easy/cheap enough to get a close to max stat helmet (9 FR/ 6 Str).
+ Bonuses of high strength and fire resist.
+ Worthwhile to replace a solid Juno.

- Only real downside is enchanting to beyond +4. This is the helmet you'll want to end with.

Again, leaving Darksteel Helmet out of the discussion for obvious reasons. The last set of equips to get (Darksteel set) is too far off to warrant anything.

'FX'
05-01-2011, 02:13 PM
It's a question of balancing time versus outcome versus finances versus luck.

Very nice Alchemia, this post deserves its own thread!

RrD555
05-01-2011, 04:59 PM
Hats off to Alchemia.

Prices are for Wadangka, but here it is.


Weapon:
sharp long sword -> katana -> Gladius -> Rune blade

Not going to explain much. This is what most people follow. For katana, I heard 4 hitrate minimum is a good standard.

A decent +5 blackskull armor easily costs 3mil+ as of now because of scarcity of the skull and high demand. Unless you really want the look and have enough extra gold, skip it.

Bone armor is very cheap and because you will be most mist likely be skipping Blackskull armor, get it.

From bone armor, high guard armor is very good upgrade and even +5 is around 1 mil or so. Same reasoning as Bone armor, because you will probably be skipping scale armor, get it and +5/6 if you have extra gold lying around or you can save it for other equipments

Scale armor...is just for the looks. I wear it if I'm farming low level mosnters for gold or roaming around the beach. Don't bother enchanting it if you are going to level to 36 as it's waste of gold.


For helmets:

Intensified Woopa Helm is quite cheap even if it's 4str. Get 3 or 4 str so you can skip bone helm. I believe the max str for bone helm is 5, but I've only seen up to 4, and the increase in 1 armor is not really worth the cost.
It's probably similar to Blackskull armor, that you would go for it if you have extra gold lying around.

+5 Blackjuno helm is less than 1 mil. Get it. The increase in 2 armor (assuming that you are using +5 intensified) is worth trading str for. With +5 juno and +5 highguard, 70 armor is quite easy to get.

Currently, I'm using heavy iron helmet and most people probably would get it just because it's level 30. I was lucky enough to get 5str the first try, but there are people who goes 1x-2x tries and never get it.
Enchant it enough so that you keep 70 armor minimum (mine is at +1 because of it) and only enchant more if you can get to 75/80 armor and if you have enough gold.


For all other equips:
1. Have enough hitrate so that you can hit orange-dark red font mobs. (Red is preferable of course, but not necessary)
2. All the types of resist is pretty much useless if you are non-pvper. From the different types of resists, I would go for fire -> ice -> magic >> poison.
3. Upgrade/enchant depends on the amount of gold you have and more importantly, if it gets you to armor point of multiple of 5.

smartboy3456
05-02-2011, 06:50 PM
Well, I'm actually pretty poor after doing the lh quest and last time I checked, +4 sturdy woopa armor on bt was 200k...

RrD555
05-02-2011, 07:48 PM
Well, I'm actually pretty poor after doing the lh quest and last time I checked, +4 sturdy woopa armor on bt was 200k...

server? If it's wad, overpriced.

smartboy3456
05-02-2011, 07:58 PM
No, I'm Lanos Devilang.

'FX'
05-02-2011, 09:32 PM
No, I'm Lanos Devilang.

That explains everything.

RrD555
05-03-2011, 06:35 AM
No, I'm Lanos Devilang.

That explains everything.

yep.
I don't know the economy in Dev so can't help you for prices then. All I know is it's more expensive than Wad

Alchemia
05-03-2011, 07:50 AM
Guide: 1/8th complete.

smartboy3456
05-03-2011, 06:25 PM
That explains everything.

I know... -.-

zilverz
05-22-2011, 06:09 PM
It's a question of balancing time versus outcome versus finances versus luck.

Blackskull Armor .. or Highguard Armor. That's the question. It's been discussed before.

Blackskull Armor
+ Solid Hp increase
+ Magic Resist
+ Strength Increase
+ More stylish than Highguard Armor

- Costly to make (80 Yeti Bones, 1 Blackskull, 3 Crystal Dust, 1 Design).

Highguard Armor
+ Solid Hp increase (in its' best form, slightly more Hp than BS Armor).
+ Ice Resist (arguably somewhat useless).
+ More armor than BS Armor (1 more in base form, more worthwhile in +5/6 form).
+ Much cheaper alternative (an armor that is really only worth its' enchant value [+5/6]).

- No useful stat upgrade.
- Arguably very ugly.

Will really come down to time, can you afford it and some luck. It'll be unlikely you can end up with both in solid form, but to try in time. HG Armor may come at a later level, but it's a solid alternative. Can't really go wrong with either. Take HG for the increased armor. Take BS for the extra stats and style, but beware of the cost behind it.

At the same time, whichever armor you decide upon, do what you can to make it +5 on your own or by purchasing. At the end of the day though, you will want one of them to be +6. Might have more chance purchasing a +6 HG as there are more than BS of that caliber. But again, everything in time and step by step. What comes first is your level, finances and time.

Scale Armor is relatively useless. It's actually very useless. It offers nothing worthwhile in any stat upgrade and only offers a handful more Hp. Only thing nice about it is it's style and is really only used to signify you've reached 32.

Steel Armor will be the armor to end at, if you can make it. Very costly to +5, as with Scale Armor. Looks trendy and offers nice stat upgrades such as high Hp and high Fire Resist.

Darksteel Armor not too much to say, that is very much long down the road for you and quite silly to go so far.

Your goal will be to end up with a solid BS or HG armor.


Similarly to the BS versus HG comparison, you'll have a decision soon.



Nice explanation.
So, and the conclusion,
Which one is better
BS or HG (Difference armor = 1)
1 armor is equal to % damage reduce ?

Let say, I want to make +6 BS or +6 HG.
Which one is better. I know is much worthed than +4 Scale Armor.

Thanks.

Kovy
05-22-2011, 06:11 PM
Armor is done in intervals of 5.

10, 15, 20, 25.

So, someone with 23 armor will have the same damage reduction as someone with 20 armor.

And the difference between +6 HG Armor and +6 BS Armor is 2 Armor points.

Up to you if you want the stats/looks or Armor.

xReborn
05-22-2011, 08:28 PM
I say that all warrior should skip all armor. Go hardcore!

ashah
05-23-2011, 03:48 PM
Actually a +5 bj helm is almost always 2mil+

Kovy
05-23-2011, 04:03 PM
Actually a +5 bj helm is almost always 2mil+

Depends on server and stats.

+5 2/3 or 2/5 Juno Helms have been going for 1.2-1.8M in Bigmama.

zilverz
05-23-2011, 06:13 PM
Armor is done in intervals of 5.

10, 15, 20, 25.

So, someone with 23 armor will have the same damage reduction as someone with 20 armor.

And the difference between +6 HG Armor and +6 BS Armor is 2 Armor points.

Up to you if you want the stats/looks or Armor.

Thank you Kovy for the explanation. :D:D

RrD555
05-24-2011, 05:23 AM
Actually a +5 bj helm is almost always 2mil+

Just adding onto Kovy's info...in Wad, when i was using bj helm, average stat +5 was 1.6mil. A month or so ago, it was down to 1mil. Not exactly sure how much they are recently though.